11. The Forgotten City Story Walkthrough, Time Loop 4 (Canon Ending)

Time Loop 4

Reload your most recent save.

Go through the usual with Galerius, saving everybody and humiliating Malleolus.

Since we still have yet to clear out a bunch of optional objectives, let's talk to Sentius.

• "...we've already had this conversation."
• "I couldn't stop it from being broken."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I've already figured out how to stop at least one person from breaking it. What happens now?"
• "I think so."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Aurelia..."
• "She's a charlatan: she's selling 'a way out', but it turned out to be hemlock."
• "No, it didn't."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Desius..."
• "He asked for help figuring out how to turn people into gold, to make money."
• "Not anymore."
• "On second thought, I don't think it's him."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Domitus..."
• "He's been trying to intimidate people into voting for Malleolus."
• "On second thought, I don't think it's him."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• It's Duli...
• "He broke The Golden Rule as soon as I had him released from his cell."
• "He had something I wanted."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Galerius..."
• "He's an escaped slave, he's angry and resentful towards you, and he's killed before."
• "On second thought, I don't think it's him."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Lucretia..."
• "She threatened to scratch Desius' eyes out if she lost another patient because of him."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Sentia..."
• "She seems awfully relaxed about Sentilla's disappearance."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Vergil..."
• "At least one resident thinks his sexuality makes him a sinner."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Ulpius..."
• "I believe he was seeing Sentilla, in secret, before she disappeared. I suspect he knows what happened to her."
• "Can we talk about who's going to break The Golden rule?"
• "I think I know who it is."
• "It's Rufius..."
• "He's becoming increasingly threatening to Vergil because of his sexuality."
• "I'll get right on it."

Talk to him again.

• "I know what you did to Sentilla."
• "You're keeping her tied up in the cistern."
• "Who?"
• "You remember him?"
• "You knew there was a way out, and even locked up your own daughter to keep it a secret. Why?
• "Hand over the key to the exit."
• "It's the right thing to do."
• "If you don't hand over the key, you'll have an uprising on your hands."
• "What's to stop me from taking it by force?"
• "This isn't over."
• "I'll find a way to break the cycle, and you with it.

That completes The Golden Rule.

Finally, return to where you met Octavia and Ulpius in Time Loop 1, and insert all four plaques into the obelisk to open the door.

Updated Main Goal:

A Herculean Task

Enter the Great Temple

Step inside and speak to the first Great Temple Door.

• "Pluto, Father of Riches, grant me an audience."

Continue forward, and speak to the second Great Temple Door.

• "Hades, Lord of Many, grant me an audience."

Speak to the third one.

• "Osiris, Lord of Silence, grant me an audience."

Finally, speak to the fourth one.

• "Nergal. The Fierce One, grant me an audience."

Run forward until you see the God of the Underworld, and save.

NOTE: If you already have the "Herculean" and "Psycho" achievements, skip past the text in the red box below.

Reload your manual save when you can. Talk to him, answering correctly (different answers this time) again.

NOTE: The first several are for if you want to know more of the story. However, answering poorly on a few of them might upset him. Especially if you decide to argue with him over who got away with sinning. Not only is it not required for the next achievement, but you lose every time anyway.

• "What's your story?"
• "You're a god?"
• "Why do you look and sound like a man?"
• "May I see your true form?"
• "Who is the woman on your left?"
• "Who is that on your right?"
• "Let's talk about something else."
• "What is this place?"
• "What was the wager you made?"
• "Who are your kin?"
• "Who built the city?"
• "How did you decide who comes here?"
• "How did humans learn about the Underworld?"
• "Let's talk about something else."
• "Are you responsible for The Golden Rule?"
• "Why turn people into gold?"
• "So you're responsible for destroying all these lives?"
• "Where did these golden bows come from?"
• "What do you consider a sin?"
• "That principle is not as easy to apply as it sounds."
• "How do you know when people sin?"
• "Is Proserpina connected to the statues in the same way?"
• "No reason." (NOTE: You can continue arguing here if you want or move on. I will outline all the options here).
• "I've seen some terrible things here that you didn't consider a sin. How could you let that happen?
• "Suicide."
• "That seems like an extremely literal interpretation of the rule."
• "If our language is full of ambiguity, doesn't that make the rule inherently subjective and unreliable?"
• "No, of course not. Never mind."
• "Price-gouging for life-saving medicine."
• "He wouldn't want someone else to demand an outrageous price for the medicine he needed if he was dying."
• "You can't know what he would expect. You're just speculating.
• "Doesn't that make it inherently subjective and unreliable?"
• "And you think you know the minds of other people?"
• "No, of course not. Never mind."
• "A scam."
• "She wouldn't want someone else to sell her hemlock if she thought she was buying a means of escape."
• "You can't know what she would expect. You're just speculating.
• "Doesn't that make it inherently subjective and unreliable?"
• "And you think you know the minds of other people?"
• "No, of course not. Never mind."
• "Debt bondage."
• "He wouldn't want to be trapped in a thirty-year labour contract because of a loan."
• "The whole concept of debt bondage, like slavery, is unethical. It's illegal under international law where I'm from."
• "It's customary to take out a loan to buy a house, and in some places, to pay for an education."
• "It depends. Typically decades. Sometimes, their entire life."
• "It's not the same thing."
• "No, of course not. Never mind."
• "Experiments on the golden statues."
• "She wouldn't want to be experimented upon if she was gilded."
• "That seems like an extremely literal interpretation of the rule."
• "If our language is full of ambiguity, doesn't that make the rule inherently subjective and unreliable?"
• "No, of course not. Never mind."
• "Abduction."
• "I disagree with that."
• "No, of course not. Never mind."
• "It's no wonder people say the gods are cruel. This just shows how unreliable and subjective your moral code is. You're no better at judging right from wrong than any human."
• "No, but that's my point. Nobody's grasp of right and wrong is so perfect they can be trusted with all this power. You've become a tyrant."
• "And if you did, you'd be proving my point."
• "Let's talk about something else."
• "That's all the questions I had."

NOTE: You must respond correctly here.

• "I'm from the future."
• "'I was hoping you could tell me.' (Lie)"
• "Shouldn't you know all this, as the God of the Underworld?"
• "I'd like you to end The Golden Rule."
• "How can you expect us to live without sin, if you can't do it yourself?"
• "You've given terrible punishments to hundreds of people, some for minor sins, and some who committed no sins at all."
• "If our positions were reversed, you wouldn't want me to punish you for the sins of other people."
• "No."
• "What makes your kind superior to mine?"
• "Why do wisdom and technology make you superior?"
• "So you think you’re not obliged to treat us fairly because you’re more powerful than us?"
• "What was it the Romans Stoics said? 'Treat your inferior as you would wish your superior to treat you.'"
• "But didn’t you say Jupiter was your leader? There’s a hierarchy within your kin."
• "So are you treating humans the way you would wish Jupiter to treat you?"
• "I’m saying: If you can’t follow your own rule, how can you expect humans to?"
• "You’re not a monster. You’re a human, and you made a mistake."
• "Humans make mistakes. It’s in our nature."
• "Perhaps he made a mistake too."
• "Perhaps when you took on human form, you took on some human foibles as well."
• "We just want to return to the world."
• "Why?"
• "I’m ready."

If you won the three required arguments, you should unlock:

• Silver Tongue

  Talk your way through every possible confrontation

  
  

Credit for the correct dialogue options: https://www.trueachievements.com/gamer/DiegoTan

NOTE: The three characters you need for this achievement are:

1. Naevia
2. Khabash (second encounter)
3. God of the Underworld

This completes A Herculean Task.

Updated Main Goal:

Point of Origin

Talk to Al

Walk up to Al Worth.

• "Al Worth? I came in here to find you."
• "...I was hoping you'd know who I am..."
• "Actually, that was me."
• "I'm right behind you."

Updated Main Goal:

Point of Origin

Return to the river

Follow the path along the river until Al Worth stops you.

• "Alright."

You might unlock:

• Minimalist

  Reach the best ending with the smallest number of loops

  
  

It was here when I unlocked Minimalist on my cheat run.

This completes Point of Origin.

Now, it's time for the Epilogue and achievement mop-up.