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Measures against SAM!!

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Posted on 04 December 15 at 10:36
Saintrussianboy said:Would a mod that doubled XP in a single-player RPG be banned?Honestly? It's unlikely but not impossible. With that said, if the mod suddenly unlocked all level-based achievements impossibly at the same time... Well, that would be a different scenario entirely and you would receive a message from the team pretty quickly.

We do have a range of filters and checks to distinguish patterns of cheating but I will not be disclosing how they work - as much as I would like to be transparent about how we track abuses of the achievement system, it runs the risk of people gaming the system I'm afraid.

As a side note, I would also like to thank everyone who has submitted reports already. The community vigilance is appreciated and reports are always followed up our side.
dfgarcia
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Posted on 27 December 15 at 17:56
Xeinok said:There are many ways to both automatically catch cheaters and to police more subtle cheating. We should look to AStats and Metagamerscore's histories to learn the proper way to do so here.Hear, hear.
Yazite
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Yazite
Posted on 31 December 15 at 12:00, Edited on 01 January 16 at 09:16 by thirtysmooth
ryanbeck117 said:Deleted commentGo on their profile, then on the gamer drop down bar, select report gamer.
Spilner
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Spilner
Posted on 31 December 15 at 12:22
Just an FYI, theres a no callout policy on the site or there would be had anyone updated the page on here laugh
Its that guy from the thing in the place.
WraithTDK
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WraithTDK
Posted on 31 December 15 at 16:34
There's also no one here by that name, from what I can tell...
shockedfrog
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shockedfrog
Posted on 04 January 16 at 12:39, Edited on 04 January 16 at 12:40 by shockedfrog
There are going to be some users like myself who appreciate being able to mod/cheat in games where we see fit (something which was rarely an issue prior to the introduction of achievements), but who also enjoy some aspects of achievements and playing games the modern boring brainwashed way. :P

I feel the best thing to do is to allow users to opt out of being part of the site's main competitive group - players who opt out would not affect stats on achievements, and would not appear in areas such as the site leaderboard, but they'd still be able to enjoy other features (ie. seeing their own achievement stats and comparing them to friends, contributing to guides where appropriate) in a way that doesn't harm the more typical user. Users who deliberately cheat to screw up stats/get on the leaderboard should still be warned and punished as appropriate, but I think giving users the option to opt out would help to create a community that welcomes all gamers. For years the poor management of achievements has caused a rift between different kinds of gamers, and I'd like to see TSA step up where Astats has failed and try to bridge that gap.
Yazite
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Yazite
Posted on 05 January 16 at 09:57, Edited on 05 January 16 at 10:02 by Yazite
shockedfrog said:There are going to be some users like myself who appreciate being able to mod/cheat in games where we see fit (something which was rarely an issue prior to the introduction of achievements), but who also enjoy some aspects of achievements and playing games the modern boring brainwashed way. :P

I feel the best thing to do is to allow users to opt out of being part of the site's main competitive group - players who opt out would not affect stats on achievements, and would not appear in areas such as the site leaderboard, but they'd still be able to enjoy other features (ie. seeing their own achievement stats and comparing them to friends, contributing to guides where appropriate) in a way that doesn't harm the more typical user. Users who deliberately cheat to screw up stats/get on the leaderboard should still be warned and punished as appropriate, but I think giving users the option to opt out would help to create a community that welcomes all gamers. For years the poor management of achievements has caused a rift between different kinds of gamers, and I'd like to see TSA step up where Astats has failed and try to bridge that gap.
There's a system much like that on TrueAchievements. Players who cheat will be excluded from site leaderboards and will have limited tracking features. I'm sure something similar will be implemented here.

Edit: Cheat Policy
shockedfrog
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Posted on 06 January 16 at 07:17
Ah, nice to see it's already in place and that the rules seem generally well thought out. I'd still prefer to see the option to choose a Non-Stat account without admin intervention, but at least it's an option at all. :)
Nomstuff
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Posted on 06 January 16 at 17:27
an opt-out would be a cool feature
JMJimmy
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JMJimmy
Posted on 06 January 16 at 18:40
shockedfrog said:Ah, nice to see it's already in place and that the rules seem generally well thought out. I'd still prefer to see the option to choose a Non-Stat account without admin intervention, but at least it's an option at all. :)A quick message to request it is all that's required. Nothing too onerous.
Life, it's funny that way.
Posted on 14 January 16 at 06:00
If any user is serious about this request, please send me a private message.
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